Jade Factory – The Biggest Hoax Of Our China Packaged Travel
Wow! Sound serious right? Was it that bad? I’m sorry but to say “Yes!”, in terms of the way they list their price, and the final deal you will get. It could be as much as 80% discount!! (Could be more. This is only figure that we managed to get…) Is it considered serious? Can I now say that it was the biggest hoax of all? I bet I can…
After our morning site seeing session to Nanjing City Wall for, err…, merely 45 minutes or less (local tour guide would chase us off to catch the so-called ‘no parking space’ couch after 45 minutes 🙁 ), we were brought by Xiao Zhang, the unfriendly and over-pride Nanjing local tour guide, to where he claimed is one of the best jade factory. Looking at my clock, I know we were going to spend at least 1 and a half hour there until lunch hour. That is the difference between site seeing and factory visit.
At the entrance lobby, as usual, Xiao Zhang introduced to us briefly what is jade and how to differentiate normal jade and good jadeit. According to him, quality of jade depends on its clarity and transparency. The more transparent it is, the higher quality the jade would be. This reminded me of diamond where the same principle applies. Frankly speaking, if you ask me, I can’t even differentiate which is crystal and which is jade. Both looked the same to me. 🙁 Jade, jasper, crystal and diamond are all natural stone but from different origin, place, with different weather and type of stones.
We were then led by one of the sales person to one of the ‘conference’ rooms and started being ‘psycho’ by the sales lady on how good is their jade products and price. Perhaps we stole 15 minutes off their scheduled timing at Nanjing City Wall, they didn’t even demonstrate to us how they cut and carve bracelet and necklace pendant, like other groups of tourists (I saw it in the other ‘conference’ room on our way out later). After that, she brought us back out to the showroom and a group (Yes. A group of no less than 5) of sales ladies approached each one of us and started to sell!
They have full range of jade products, from pendants, bracelet, rings to stamps. Jean and I wandered around too see if there is anything we like. Honestly, we couldn’t know whether those jadeit they sell are real jades, high quality jade, jasper or crystal. Travel Tips: Don’t care whether they are genuine or good quality, buy things that you like with the price you think is acceptable, in China.
Jean spotted one necklace. This was the one…(above), about one inch long. It’s jadeit carved into the shape of Pi Xiu (貔恘), a Feng Shui animal in Chinese believe. Its list price was RMB2,500. The sales person offerred Jean RMB2,000 initially. We thought it’s expensive though we didn’t know how much should it be. After some bargaining, she further offerred her final price to RMB1,300! See? From RMB2.5k to 1.3k, almost 50% off!! Is this how they normally do business? The point is, if, one customer didn’t bargain at all, he would pay double the price! What a hoax! This was scared us off! What if we take up the offer and found cheaper offer later on? We walked out the eixt without buying to take a break and told one of our fellow group members about this. He laughed and told us he had got the same experience on his Beijing trip before. And he taught us one tactic to buy souvenirs in China: Offer back the sales person one final price that you are happy to pay, no matter how low, and see if she agree, take it or leave it, and don’t regret of buying or leaving without buying, after that.
We taught might as well try it since we have nothing to lose (most importantly, Jean loves it very much!). We firmed up our price and went back into the showroom. “Ok! Now I could only pay RMB800 for the necklace, take it or leave it?” “No no no. It’s too low, we will lose money! What about RMB1,000?” “Nevermind, maybe next time… let’s go!” “Wait! Handsome, come back. Ok ok ok, don’t let us lose so much, RMB880! Deal?” “Deal!”
How? Instead of RMB2,500 llist price, her final offer of RMB1,300, now we only paid RMB880 for the necklace!!! Let’s do some calculation….. almost 70% off! What a hoax! Not only us. This couple from our tour group also were being offerred RMB3,000 for a bracelet from a list price of RMB15,000! (Can you feel it? Count the number of times symbol ‘!’ being added!)
We pulled them off for a smoking break and tried not to go back in again. Jean took a photo of me just outside of the jade gallery. And you know what? Xiao Zhang came out and shouted to us, “Hey! What are you doing here? Go up! Your lunch would be here also at 1st floor! GO!”….What the hack.
Luckily, after lunch, we would say ‘Sayonara’ to him and off for another significant city of China, a city of clay pot, Wuxi 🙂 – Travel Feeder.
Going on tour is always like that – rush here and there and then being shepharded to souvenir shops where they are ready to rip u off.
Thanks for the tips on handling these unscrupulous merchants. Cutting 70-80% off asking price in China is very common. Wonder if there is more room for bargaining there
ZQ
- August 4, 2009PassportChop.com
.-= ZQ Travel Blog´s last blog ..Quirky Vienna – Opera Toilet, Flak Tower =-.
Well I bought a jadeit Pi Xiu in pink without the chain. It’s around RM200 plus or less can’t really remember. Smaller size go for RM100 plus. Thought yours is still expensive. 😛
- August 4, 2009> ZQ,
- August 4, 2009Thanks for your gracious comments. You seemed to have more experience in bargaining in China. Sometimes you would not believe their prices can go such low, can’t imagine how much is their cost!
>Che-Cheh,
- August 4, 2009Oops! I thought we had a bargain! Now only I know we were being ripped off and still smiling… 🙁
Why you tell me the truth? I want to cry now! wu~Wu~wu…..
sigh… I kena conned many times in the past when in China. Also bought those stuff like jade, pixi, not cheap though. but nevermind ler.. already bought. Next time just be careful and best is dun buy!
Some said we shouldn’t even trust those outlets that are so-called “National brand”.
- August 5, 2009.-= eunice´s last blog ..My Dream Cruise! =-.
At least you know now ya. Take it as a lesson. Thank God to our tour guide/tour agency.
- August 6, 2009>Eunice,
- August 7, 2009Yeah yeah yeah, you are right. Those so-called national brands are the one chopped you most! 🙁
>Che-Cheh,
- August 7, 2009🙁 🙁 No next time… God bless our tour guide Xiao Zhang!
Our worst experience in our first (will it be our last?) China trip was we were cheated by the Tongrentang Health Cultural Centre in paying bloody large sum of money for the ‘medicine’.
- November 28, 2009Are you staying in Singapore, if you are go TO CASE and lodge a complaint. I encounter the same Tongrentang health center IN Shanghai on 5th dec 09 our last day of tour. The health supplement only cost 10 Yuan/per box in the real Tongrentang Medical Hall in Shanghai and they sold me for 150 yuan/per box.
- December 29, 2009By just reading the title of your post first, I knew what I would be expecting from this blog. I experienced the same thing when I went to Nanjing!!! The tour guide we hired took us to the biggest jade factory (I think the same place where you went) and asked us to TAKE A LOOK. So we looked around and wanted to leave because no one was really interested in it, but the sellers there were really pushy and insistent that we buy something! And it’s like the tour guide wouldn’t let us leave without buying anything!! And these jades are quite pricey! That was crazy!!!
So yeah some of my friends from the tour group bought whatever is the cheapest and we finally were given the privilege to leave! But Nanjing is beautiful!!! 🙂
Camille
- August 6, 2011Also beware of the following con that I witnessed. After selling an expenisive jade bangle at the demonstration table, they wanted to take it away to “wrap”. This was prevented by others in the group. Later when the old lady was alone, they managed to bring out some rubbish with much larger “price tags” to try to get her to pay more first then finally to swap. The swapped piece came with a “certificate” so the lady still thinks she bought a bargain. I also did not know it was a con at the time it happened!
- May 13, 2012@Tim,
- May 13, 2012Yes, this is another trick they try to fool us around. So have to be extra careful if you decided to buy to make sure the actual piece of jade you bought is the same one as you have chosen. Thanks for sharing! 🙂
i bought a 2400 $ canadian x 8 rnb = 19200 : original price was 28000 RNB in a private show room.
I think one has to understand the China Chinese before you pass judgement as this cheap cheap tour package you purchased is provided by the Chinese government, and if you fly to China and enter the China Tour association, this tour actually cost under 120$ USD which included 3 cooked meals (albeit family style)and 4-5 star hotels with chauffeured bus.
All i read on this post was negativity, but in reality. Just other CHEAP chinese from different country pouncing on obsurities you are not use to.
i would say if you like to just hang out and see the sites and be driven around for 8 days for under 800$ (which includes airfare and return) and a 360$ CAN option for BEIJING tour for 4 days… Stop whining of being conned .. BLAH BLAH blah>>>>> the theory in China is , everything can be bargained, if you don’t know how, then it’s your fault, not the cultures.
I would say the Jade Bracelet i bought for my un-deserving ex-Wife now is was oddly appraised by my Shenzen sister-in-law was right on the money.>!! dead on exact cost.
SO being that said, JADE bracelets are only prized by CHINA chinese woman as it is a sign of WOMANHOOD>… all you HATERS out there.
IGNORRANCE IS not BLISS> .. Stay out of CHINA if you don’t want to understand the culture. Cause no one wants to hear bitching….
- July 4, 2013You might want to get this item professionally evaluated (by a gemologist or jeweller), as the Run-Ze Jade Garden are notorious for selling COUNTERFEIT jade. They actually sell artificially coloured quartz (i.e. dyed stone) as Jade, and provide a ‘certificate of authenticity’ along with it. My parents purchased a $4,000 AUD bracelet that was later valued at less than $50, and the business would do nothing about it, or refund any money.
Go and have a look at Trip Advisor and see numerous other reviews reporting the same fraudulent actions by this horrible business.
- January 27, 2017